After enjoying Thanksgiving Day, and it being a holiday weekend for many, we convened the November, last-Friday-of-the-month, Tech Net on TARC's repeater system at 9:00 PM.
kd5und, Travis, checked in with a problem he's been having with a hum in his radio only when he uses an electret mic. When he changes to a dynamic mic, the hum goes away. When he changes radios, but keeps the electret mic plugged in, the hum is there. He's checked his grounding, changed power supplies, checked his mic shield and tried other radios and had narrowed it down to a problem with the electret type microphones only. Since it happens with other electret microphones, it probably not a problem with the microphones. When the hum is there and he places his finger on the radio chassis, the hum goes away. So the question is "What is the microphone picking up, and from where, and how can it be corrected?"
kd5und, Travis, also mentioned that he's got fork lift batteries for his back-up power and is using a UPS charging circuit out of an old APC unit (with bad batteries) to keep them charged up.
wb5mxo, Guy, checked in and mentioned a w3ff BuddiPole he saw mounted on a three wheeled bicycle. This was in response to an earlier e-mail communique.
n5kh, Will, suggested to kd5und, that he try lifting the ground pin to the AC house wiring to see if there was something coming in on the ground.
ke5wph, Andrew, said that he's getting prepared to put in a 45 ft. Rohn 25 tower and has a question, "What is the optimal guy tension for the guy wires. Regarding Travis' problem. Maybe an RF choke on both positive and negative.
kd5und, Travis, suggested to ke5wph that he tighten his guys to 3 - 6 inches of deflection on the guy cable.
n5kh, Will, mentioned an RF choke as well. Also, does putting a battering in parallel with the power supply filter the noise out? Are there cables running parallel to something that might induce a signal into the power cable. kd5und, Travis, mentioned that the problem does go away with a battery, but that he has not put the battery in the power circuit. It sound like it's either in the power supplies of the AC service to the shack.
kd0cdk, Don, suggested that the 2008/9 ARRL Handbook has a lot of information on noise problems and troubleshooting them. Also he suggested taking the house out of the power circuit with power going only to the shack to see if maybe there is something in the house wiring letting something in. If, during isolation, the problem goes away, you know it's something in the house. Also, have you tried installing a capacitor from the mic positive to ground? Also, are your computers on when you have this problem? kd5und, Travis, answered that he's turned the computers
off and the problem persists.
kd5njr, Scott, suggested that you can check the noise on the AC line with an oscilloscope by taking a few turns around the hot and connecting it to the 'scope probe. That ought to induce enough voltage to see what's going on without putting too much current into the 'scope.
n5kh, Will mentioned that Travis may want to keep an eye on the UPS charging system for his fork lift batteries as many of those UPSs are designed for a particular duty cycle, and the fork lift batteries might exceed that level.
kd5und, Travis, replied that he will start doing that and monitor the output voltage. He said he's been using that system for about 6 months with no problems yet and the system triggers it's alarms whenever he changes the load too greatly.
n5kh, Will, said that the idea to use the UPS charging system is a great idea.
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